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	<title>Comments on: A Useless Passion, Condemned to be Free &#8211; Sartre&#8217;s Definition of Man</title>
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		<title>By: What tool is available to break the hold of apathy? - Interfaith forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>What tool is available to break the hold of apathy? - Interfaith forums</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: laphilosophie</title>
		<link>http://bookcrazy.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/a-useless-passion-condemned-to-be-free-sartres-definition-of-man/#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>laphilosophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still ponder on the meaning of the phrase &quot;Man is a useless passion&quot;.   I however understand what he means by saying that the idea of God is contradictory - for us, because we can not achieve that.

De Beauvoir&#039;s Ethics of Ambiguity seems to be an attempt to help human beings avoid being a &quot;useless passion&quot;. Her ethics enjoins us to accept that we can never become God, and learn how to live as persons that are neither fully spirit or matter.

In reading De Beauvoir though, I find her ethics a little bit impractical; though awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still ponder on the meaning of the phrase &#8220;Man is a useless passion&#8221;.   I however understand what he means by saying that the idea of God is contradictory &#8211; for us, because we can not achieve that.</p>
<p>De Beauvoir&#8217;s Ethics of Ambiguity seems to be an attempt to help human beings avoid being a &#8220;useless passion&#8221;. Her ethics enjoins us to accept that we can never become God, and learn how to live as persons that are neither fully spirit or matter.</p>
<p>In reading De Beauvoir though, I find her ethics a little bit impractical; though awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenavie J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenavie J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when we learn &quot;everything,&quot; we loose our minds

we ignore the ones who adore us, 

we adore the ones who hurt us

the fury rages all for vanity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when we learn &#8220;everything,&#8221; we loose our minds</p>
<p>we ignore the ones who adore us, </p>
<p>we adore the ones who hurt us</p>
<p>the fury rages all for vanity</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes vanity so insufferable to us, is that it hurts our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes vanity so insufferable to us, is that it hurts our own.</p>
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		<title>By: bookcrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookcrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenavie,
That&#039;s a very interesting question. Transcendence in itself, at worst should be limited, I guess to an impossibility. However, I think an unrelenting dogmatic attempt to achieve transcendence may compare to suicide at some levels. 

I think you must visit this post by Arulba:&lt;a href=&quot;http://minddance.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/i-think-i-solved-the-camus-koan/#comment-3687&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Camus Koan Solved &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a&gt; and the discussion below that. It should be interesting to you.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenavie,<br />
That&#8217;s a very interesting question. Transcendence in itself, at worst should be limited, I guess to an impossibility. However, I think an unrelenting dogmatic attempt to achieve transcendence may compare to suicide at some levels. </p>
<p>I think you must visit this post by Arulba:<a href="http://minddance.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/i-think-i-solved-the-camus-koan/#comment-3687" rel="nofollow"> Camus Koan Solved </a><a> and the discussion below that. It should be interesting to you.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jenavie J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenavie J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t transcendence be compared to suicide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t transcendence be compared to suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: bookcrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookcrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did I know that you will interpret Sartre&#039;s own definition of bad faith to enclose him as well? Anyways, your comments are so thoughtful, I really require a lot of contemplation before replying.

First, let me talk about &#039;ego&#039;. &#039;Ego&#039; in hindu philosophy is &#039;ahankar&#039;. The English connotation is a little different from the exact meaning of the term, though &#039;ego&#039; may as well define it. But, in the Hindu philosophy &#039;ego&#039; denotes the arrogance of the &#039;subject of existence&#039;. That part of us which is the source of inertia against &#039;the supreme&#039;, our realisation of the spiritual self etc. is the ego. However, I do not understand. Using these terms and drawing conclusions out of their pre-defined meaning is all I see in most spiritual texts. If I say there is no transcendence beyond the limits of existence within the existing human condition, I do not think ego becomes a problem. And if &#039;ego&#039; is defined the other way round as &#039;that thing which prevents me from transcending&#039;, then it is a part of human condition for me. The attempt to  overcome it would be what Sartre says &quot;a useless passion&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did I know that you will interpret Sartre&#8217;s own definition of bad faith to enclose him as well? Anyways, your comments are so thoughtful, I really require a lot of contemplation before replying.</p>
<p>First, let me talk about &#8216;ego&#8217;. &#8216;Ego&#8217; in hindu philosophy is &#8216;ahankar&#8217;. The English connotation is a little different from the exact meaning of the term, though &#8216;ego&#8217; may as well define it. But, in the Hindu philosophy &#8216;ego&#8217; denotes the arrogance of the &#8217;subject of existence&#8217;. That part of us which is the source of inertia against &#8216;the supreme&#8217;, our realisation of the spiritual self etc. is the ego. However, I do not understand. Using these terms and drawing conclusions out of their pre-defined meaning is all I see in most spiritual texts. If I say there is no transcendence beyond the limits of existence within the existing human condition, I do not think ego becomes a problem. And if &#8216;ego&#8217; is defined the other way round as &#8216;that thing which prevents me from transcending&#8217;, then it is a part of human condition for me. The attempt to  overcome it would be what Sartre says &#8220;a useless passion&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: arulba</title>
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		<dc:creator>arulba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, me again.  I just looked it up in my notes:  Sartre says we can transcend the ego (but not in the Kierkegaardian sense).  Transcendence, according to Sartre, is the ability to reach beyond any factual situation in which we find ourselves (our facticity - the family we are born into, our health, etc.) There are facts that are true about us (our facticity), and there is our ability to chose - to transcend “ourselves”.  Bad faith is the denial of either one’s facticity or one’s transcendence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, me again.  I just looked it up in my notes:  Sartre says we can transcend the ego (but not in the Kierkegaardian sense).  Transcendence, according to Sartre, is the ability to reach beyond any factual situation in which we find ourselves (our facticity &#8211; the family we are born into, our health, etc.) There are facts that are true about us (our facticity), and there is our ability to chose &#8211; to transcend “ourselves”.  Bad faith is the denial of either one’s facticity or one’s transcendence.</p>
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